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BerichtGeplaatst: 06 Mrt 2008 20:14    Onderwerp: Nu & Toen, of nog altijd hetzelfde? Reageer met quote

Veel mensen bekijken oorlog, soldaat zijn en aanverwante zaken door een Hollywoodbril. Veel mensen hebben geen idee van wat een squad, compagnie of divisie inhoud en vooral niet wat het aan logistiek verreist. Al een tijdje heb ik deze website bij mijn favorieten staan: “Wriring Military SF" en vind deze buitengewoon interessant. Gemaakt door een US Marine die zich voorstelt met volgende woorden “I was US Marine Non-Commisioned Officer and a squad leader. I served in Desert Storm and Desert Shield. While I was in the Marines my hobby was small unit tactics. I enjoyed learning about all manner of small unit fighting from guerrilla wars to large scale conflicts. I was an NCO, not an officer so my viewpoints are that of a small unit leader who loved his job and strove for excellence.”
Alhoewel WOI zelden of nooit ter voorbeeld wordt genomen lijkt het mij toch de moeite om deze site eens onder aandacht te brengen. Het adres

En misschien zijn er wel puntjes te vinden die vergelijking en/of discussie naar WOI mogelijk maken.

Uit de inhoud o.a. (te vinden onder )

Billets: What are different positions in a military organization and what do they do.

Combat Operations: Talks about patrols, offensive operations and defensive operations.

Combined Arms: Gives the amateur an idea of how different weapons systems compliment each other.

Communications: This is what helps dispel the fog of war. It is a critical and often overlooked aspect of war. The side with the most effective communications is more likely to win

Covering Fire: This is a critical aspect of fire fights.

Defensive Operations: What makes a defense more than just some bunkers, trenches, holes. The methods behind the madness.

Evolution of Warfare: Warfare has changed a great deal since primitive fighters were armed with sticks and stones. This will help you understand what has changed and where it is going.

Firefight Dynamics: Firefights are more than just thugs throwing bullets at each other hoping for a kill. This will help you understand the finer points of a firefight - forget the movies.

Grenade Launchers: A very important weapon in infantry units. There are specific techniques and tactics they use.

Killing: The psychology and realities about killing your fellow man in war. Includes battle fatigue and pschological illnesses.

Logistics: One of the most important aspects of fighting a war that writers often underplay or overlook. Logistics affects everything from the guy in the trenches to the high commander.

Machine Guns: There are specialized tactics employed by machine gunners. Movie watchers have absolutely no clue as to how the real world works

Martial Arts: Hand to hand combat training is not obsolete. Here's a look at why.

Military Organization: This is about how military units are organized and some of the whys.

Mortars: This is every infantryman's friend and nightmare. A critical, often overlooked aspect of warfare that has been present on the battlefield (but rarely the movies) since World War One.

National Policy: A lot of things can affect a war and a Nation's desire to wage it. This will help explain things from the high commands perspective. It also will have an effect on the soldier in the trenches

Not Getting Shot: Sounds simple, it's not.

Offensive Operations: What makes an attack more than just a bunch of soldiers with bayonets running and shooting at each other. The methods behind the madness.

Patrolling: This is an article about the art of patrolling. This will give you some idea of the amount of planning that goes into something that seems so simple.

Rates of Fire: There is a secret to real world fire fights that they make no mention of in the movies. Ammo doesn't last forever.

Rocket Launchers: An integral part of infantry formations. Like a machine gun there are special techniques and tactics used with Rocket Launchers.

Snipers: This article is about the role of the sniper on the modern battlefield.

Special Operations: What is it all about. The methods behind the madness.

Tactics: A crash course in infantry individual, battle team, fire team, squad, platoon and company tactics

Tanks: These are not the unstoppable behomoths of the battlefield. More and more units are getting into the tank killing business. It is really not that hard, just scary.

The Individual: This is about the death and fear.

Types of War: This is an attempt to explain the difference between Attrition War, Maneuver War and Revolutionary War.

War Theatre: Every war is different for a great many reasons. This will help you visualize the social environment and make the conflict more believable.
Greetings from a Little Gallant Belgian:-)
Patrick De Wolf

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"We're doomed, I tell ye!"
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BerichtGeplaatst: 09 Mrt 2008 12:41    Onderwerp: Reageer met quote

Een waarheid als een koe

"Hollywood is great at making war seem so simple and strait forward. It makes the watcher believe that people kill each other because they are told, because it is kill or be killed, the enemy is hated or whatever. Hollywood tries to make us believe that all soldiers fire at each other, desperately attempting to hit and kill each other. While there is some truth in the matter, it is mostly wrong."

"When most people talk about killing, they are like virgins talking about sex."

Enkele bedenkingen & cijfertjes:

"A look at history might help illustrate what I am talking about. In World War Two, it is a fact that only 15-20 percent of the soldiers fired at the enemy. That is one in five soldiers actually shooting at a Nazi when he sees one. While this rate may have increased in desperate situations, in most combat situations soldiers were reluctant to kill each other. The Civil War was not dramatically different or any previous wars."

In Korea, the rate of soldiers unwilling to fire on the enemy decreased and fifty five percent of the soldiers fired at the enemy. In Vietnam, this rate increased to about ninety five percent but this doesn't mean they were trying to hit the target. In fact it usually took around fifty-two thousand bullets to score one kill in regular infantry units! It may be interesting to not that when Special Forces kills are recorded and monitored this often includes kills scored by calling in artillery or close air support. In this way SF type units could score very high kill ratios like fifty to a hundred for every SF trooper killed. This is not to say these elite troops didn't score a large number of bullet type kills. It is interesting to note that most kills in war are from artillery or other mass destruction type weapons."

"It should be noted that although a soldier may shoot, he may not try to kill. He may be ordered to fire but it is very hard to determine if he is trying to hit as can be noted by the 52,000 rounds fired for one hit ration in Vietnam. People were willing to fire but not always willing to hit the target. This can also be evident in earlier times when muskets were used when soldiers would get in a line, shoulder to shoulder, shoot each other and not hit anything. Even then some would not shoot."

En hoe zit dat nu voor WOI? Was het leven en laten leven? Hoe werd het geweer gebruikt naar de vijand toe? Was ieder schot een treffer?
Greetings from a Little Gallant Belgian:-)
Patrick De Wolf

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BerichtGeplaatst: 09 Mrt 2008 13:47    Onderwerp: Reageer met quote

Ik zie niet in waarom dat in WO1 anders was. Ik heb ooit een sociologische studie gelezen over slagveldgedrag, en daar bleek uit dat de overgrote meerderheid van de strijders vooral bezig is met imponeergedrag en dat de echte strijders in de minderheid zijn. En dan maakt het niet uit of je met een knots, een speer of een geweer vecht.
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